Usually, you set this option once as a workflow preference. I'm going from memory on this process, so you might need to run through cautiously the first time to see if I've forgotten something. Report 0 Likes Reply 6 REPLIES Message 2 of 7 jhackney1972 The selected and all child browser nodes. Inventor will create an entirely new Assembly, and will create all the new components on disk while creating all the new file paths (hyperlinks) inside the Assembly file. Selects component for inclusion in the derived part. No problem about prompting to save, it is OK with us. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. whole assembly will be saved as a single part. Choose either, To select all occurrences of the selected item click the. Legacy shrinkwrapped parts use the Simplify property panel when edited. I hope that the development team is aware! Use the Simplify command to reduce the content within an assembly by removing components, features, and output a simplified part file. As a side note, the derive functionality is also used for mirrored parts, substitute Level of Detail parts and simplified parts. Can't find what you're looking for? Place multiple parts into assembly. Here's my question. Open the destination assembly, expand the Model States folder, right-click the Substitutes folder, expand New Substitute, click Select Part File, and browse to the part file on disk. In Inventor - start a new Part file, go Insert-->Import. I managed to solve this problem with iLogic: Taking iLogic solution into the account, I came to few reasons why this happens: I hope I explained it understandable. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. I have a script which opens a STEP file, and I do some operations within it, and then I attempt to save it as a .iam file and referenced .ipt/.iam files. Assembly features are features that show up in the assembly drawing and not in the part file. If required, select the check box to mirror the derived part feature from the base part. If required, click Select from Base to allow graphical selection of components from the base component window. Either you save or you don't. Glad you joined us from lurking in the shadows. Can't find what you're looking for? In Solidworks, there is an option to save an assembly as a part. While it is true that a STL file has no connection to the model that produced it (as with STEP), a STL file is no longer usable geometry in Inventor or many other modeling systems. I notice that when I save the .iam file, it saves all its referenced parts to my User/Documents/Inventor folder instead of the same folder as where I am saving the .iam file. Whenever a part geometry is changed, the mass will need to be recomputed. save assembly and all parts ? Is there a way I can override that so the parts wont be updated? Going back to the original Derived Component idea, you can Suppress Link or even Break Link with the original. Is that an only Inventor Pro function? The active model state contains the components that define the envelope size. Can't find what you're looking for? This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. I tried using pack and go on an assembly. You can sketch on the face of an assembly component (or an assembly work plane) and include geometry from other assembly components in your feature sketches. I also like the replies you give "In General" and try to understand what is different sometimes between the theory and the practice. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. With the geometry projected finish the sketch and extrude the feature in the part. You can save the assembly as a part, and then it's much easy to deal with in your assembly. I know that we as person/generation are asking every time more, but on the other hand the software resellers promise us also more every time! From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. I wish I could mark all of your posts as solutions because I essentially used elements of each to get my new file. Creates the smallest file on disk. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. I hope this helps.Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,Curtishttp://inventortrenches.blogspot.com, Forum links:Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum|Inventor Ideas Forum |General Inventor Forum. Glad you were able to find resolution to your issue. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Because this mechanism is written in more than only one "Object" before it is displayed as "Mass" this is not always saved correctly within the assembly. Create the new part (use random shape) and save it. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Convert an Inventor Assembly to a single part I want to get a 3D print of a model I have but it is a model of an assembly and it has to be converted to a solid body. For a Vault environment this is called a Dirty Maker and is frustrating enough to update everytime. Is this possible? You can choose to create a virtual component. It is set up this way to allow you to have additional processes done after the assembly, and for them to show on the correct drawings. Part now has mass updated, but assembly does not. A STL file approximates the original model using mesh geometry. They have a browser representation, have properties such as quantity, BOM Structure, Part Number, and so on. I can loop through all the referenced documents and save them to the same directory as the .iam file, but when I save the actual .iam it still saves a copy of everything to the Documents/Inventor. Doing this will execute the StepExport rule and export the step file to the SavePath folder. To my opinion it should either work in Inventor and In an environment with Vault to. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Also, any assembly consuming the part will have N/A. Creates a single solid body derived part with no seams between planar faces. To translate this article, select a language. Presets assign values to the fields further in the property panel. Regards, Igor. In Solidworks, when I open it, all the parts are solids, when I save it as a part, it remains a solid? There are quite afew options for copying designs. Go to Solution. This option works, but only if you save it few times (at least 2), BUT if any sub-model is changed after top assembly is released, it will always need to update for the new mass, except if you "quick change" whole structure from changed part and above, which can be really time consuming and not effective. Also and more critical that if the file is to be released in Vault that the mass is filled in correctly, this is often not the case. As you select options, other options that are invalid are hidden. ). (I already tried all 'Save As', 'Save Copy As', Export', etc options). Delete the assembly feature from the assembly file as it's no longer needed. One more thing is that the mass is also written even if the file is read-only, and that is not correct if you use a release process. When the command starts the active model state, design view, and position view populate the Initial State group. Additionally, some of the parts I need to do this with are design accelerator parts. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Solved by jmdnq9. When I go to save the new assembly I get told Older Version file, and saving will convert the files tot he current version. This option allows the part to resize or change position if the constraining parameters or components change. But in my problem above, I am stating another problem. @johnsonshiueCan you please again take a look at the behavior. I can upload the .stl version if you would need that. I then close the top level assembly (without saving changes) and reopen it. If the App options is not turned on, the mass of such part will show N/A. The elements under the Solid Bodies or Surface Bodies folders. When creating a part, you can project geometry from the face of another part. You can do it in two clicks with Simplify. If you selected them on the File Open Options dialogs, you can change them here. Remove parts by selection (default). I don't know if that is defaul though, I did the " Save Copy As" then picked the .stl option, as for the other method, go to theAssemble --> dropdown arrow under shrinkwrap/shrinkwrap substitute --> Create simplified part --> single solid body--> click okay. Follow the dialog window to set various options depending on your downstream needs. Because both of the files are dirtied, save dialog will pop up, save them both. file you have exported from AutoCAD. If you browse to the folder where you are saving the copy of your Assembly, you will see all the little parts being created. RMB on the derive node in the model browser and select "Suppress Link" to temporally break the part's dependency on the assembly file. An assembly drawing will show the parts assembled and any subsequent modifications that would need to be made AFTER the parts are assembled. The whole thing was rather painless, and a good enough workflow for my needs. Solved by jjstr8. Then you should have addressed your concern to the OP, not to me. Inventor 2017.4.4 Update: INVGEN-6487: Fixed an issue where Rebuild all on a Frame generator assembly creates multiple Extends in part file INVGEN-13574: The browser node for Flush constraint now updates correctly when working with positional representations (except for Master) and setting values via API or iLogic. Solution: Within the Autodesk Inventor Assembly To use the Shrinkwrap process which is described in this article on how to create a Shrinkwrap part: If required, turn off the Show All Objects check box to display only exported elements in the list. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. However, this behavior may not be desirable for some users, who complain excessive prompting to save. Enter a meaningful name for the new part file. I hope this helps.Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,Curtishttp://inventortrenches.blogspot.com, Forum links:Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum|Inventor Ideas Forum |General Inventor Forum. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved. Your choice!!! The part renaming follows this pattern: "Part[sequence number]:[instance number]" which yields "Part1:1", "Part2:1", and so on. I have all files unlocked (ready to be worked on), I shape them as I please, which is OK, then I want to save on TOP assembly, but it does not update the mass of it, eventhough all below assemblies get the mass and also the part. In Inventor, go to the MANAGE TAB - iLogic Panel and click iTrigger. Then I simply promoted the components I needed. Then you can promote the components from the copies of A and B, then demote them into a new subassembly C. This will remove the components from the copied subassemblies, but since they are only copies, you still have your originals intact and all is well. The trouble I can see is that an assembly is released, while some of the parts (shared by multiple assemblies) are still being worked on. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, Factory Design Suite 2016, Inventor 2016, & Product Design Suite 2016. The result is that components in subassembly_C are all assembled in place and ready to go. ____________________________________________________________. Hello all. If required, check the Use color override from source component check box to link the color from the base component into the target part. Go to Solution. If unchecked, the appearance is set to default appearance of the target part. Use the From To or To extents options for Extruded features. Then I click the Save button while in the top level assembly and set subassembly_A and subassembly_B so that they will not save. A derived assembly may be a scaled, mirrored, or simplified version of the original. Can't find what you're looking for? Later the parts are updated. Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Can't find what you're looking for? Go to Solution. Extruded features with From To or To extents to other assembly components are adaptive by default. It updates the mass of every sub-component (part or assembly), but not the top assembly, unless there is no save dialog for multiple files. It seems that we have two different issues here. If one of the iMate participants is a bounding box, it is a new body and the face is no longer available. You can create a derived part using a part, assembly (not in LT), sheet metal part, or weldment. Is this possible? Perhaps you can just save the original assembly as a new assembly and simply remove the unwanted parts. Solved by SEC_CAD. On the Bodies tab, accept the default or use the Status buttons at the top to change the status of all selected components quickly. It is because the feature recipes and the parameters are already captured (saved), the mass prop can be evaluated when the geometry becomes up-to-date. : step, igs, parasolids, etc.) Repeat the same process in steps 2 & 3 on the other parts. Go to Solution. If this solved your issue please mark thisposting "Accept as Solution". Sounds like you are after 2010 multi-body solids, but I still don't understand where the "can't change anything" comes in? If desired, select the check box to mirror the derived part feature from the base part. If any are needed I will try to demostrate what I need in a smaller demonstration file. Any CAD program can be used to edit a solid body. You select geometry to add, subtract, or exclude from the resulting derived component. More is the case that also if the file is not updated and already released, it will write the mass to calculate. For example: it would be common to "drill and pin at assembly" - two or more parts would be assembled (and possibly adjusted) and then pinned in place. Items marked with this symbol are ignored in updates to the derived part. You can sketch on the face of an assembly component (or an assembly work plane) and include geometry from other assembly components in your feature sketches. Use command manageriLogic command to update mass (synchronous - important, otherwise it does not work!). Create a simplified part in an assembly using the Simplify command. A STEP file maintains the BREP geometry of the original. Go to Solution. Create the new part (use random shape) and save it. Thanks for pointing out new information, but I think this is a different issue. I'm starting with a STEP file (from a vendor). Excludes element in the derived part. Will this have any affect on saving as a new subassembly? Report 1 Like Reply Message 3 of 7 cwhetten in reply to: JavaLodge Click the Representations tab to select a Design View, Positional, and Level of Detail representation. The active design view displays. Start a new part file, then go to the Manage tab and click the Import button. This is the default option. This options should at least save proper mass, if you save it once and release it, but it does not, if it is not saved correctly as you described and as in above pictures. I learn new things pretty much every day. Go to Solution. Sam BInventor Pro 2019.0.0 | Windows 7 SP1LinkedIn, saves it as an .STL file. If a sketch is active when you create the part, click Return to close the sketch. The Simplify command creates either a derived solid or a derived surface composite part from an assembly. Change the part a bit so it gets dirtied (also assembly will get dirtied). I'm Inventor has a similar feature. Thanks!!!! From there you refine the parameters that define the simplified model. In the Derived Part dialog box, model elements are displayed in a hierarchy. If you're starting with a STEP file then you should be able importit as a part file rather than an assembly. Change the part a bit so it gets dirtied (also assembly will get dirtied). Hey, yeah and MLT file have some more edit possibilities to edit but stil not perfect, any suggestions what kind of file best to be using if you dont beed any connectivity to assembly and at the same time very good to edit? It updates the mass before update is executed (asynchronous? You may still have to fix a couple of constraints, as promoting and demoting can do some funky things with existing constraints (Inventor does its best to read your mind to know what you want it to do with the constraints, but sometimes it gets it wrong). Creates a single solid body derived part with seams between planar faces. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Besides. If a sketch is active when you create the part, click Return to close the sketch. I know from the title it might look like I just want to create a subassembly from parts already in an assembly, but it's a little more complicated than that. For PDM workflow purpose, I suggest the files to be prompted to save, so that the Vault always has the latest and greatest version of the files. Before you create the part, in the Application Options dialog, Assembly tab, select the check box for Enable Associative Edge/Loop Geometry Projection During In-Place Modeling. Upvote 1 Upvoted 2 Downvote 11 Downvoted 12 Arthur Kim Answered on 4 Apr, 2016 02:43 AM IF YOU MAKE ONE SOLID PART IN ASSEMBLY THEN USE MERGE IN COMPONENT OPERATION. Autodesk does not warrant, either expressly or implied, the accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information translated by the machine translation service and will not be liable for damages or losses caused by the trust placed in the translation service. Accept the default or use the Status buttons at the top to change the status of all selected objects quickly. What I have is one major assembly, consisting of a collection of parts as well as some subassemblies. Create a new part, then use the 3D Model, Create, Derive command to create one solid body including all the components you want. The .Save2 will save without a confirmation prompt, unlike .Save. The bounding box updates to reflect changes in the derived component or in the base component. I'm open to suggestions for doing this another way, I just need a way to create an exploded view from components already in place but in separate assemblies. Now all that is left to do is save it, which you already know how to do but just in case. Is it possible to save the 2d drawings also ? So in affect the only changes that are saved are to subassembly_C and the top level assembly. Hi! Creates a derived part as a single surface composite which retains the appearance of the original components. For part instances the instance number is iterated which yields "Part1:1", "Part1:2", and so on. The mass need to be recomputed. Creates a derived part with a single surface body. Solved by Cadmanto. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Creates a multi-body part that retains selected components as individual solid bodies. Check your SavePath folder. Or ifyou like something that was saidand it was helpful, Kudosare appreciated. A STEP file has no links to any of its origin files, and if you create a simplified part from an assembly and break the link, there is no longer any tie to the assembly and components. Excludes component from the derived part. This is a known issue for a long time already in Inventor (at least since 2012 of Inventor). You can override any value. Click Open to close the Open dialog box. Begin selecting parts or components in the canvas. You can create a part or assembly while working in an existing assembly. If the base part contains a single body, creates a single body part. If some settings could be changed only by admin, that would be great in Inventor! In case any of this information is needed, I use: Solved by Curtis_Waguespack. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. I have never done this and I have to say that I don't remember seeing this question posted here before. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. It was also set the same in example above. Unfortunately, we cannot have both. Ask the community or share your knowledge. Component position contributes to defining the envelope size. Do not sell or share my personal information. Step 19: Save As The hard part is over, the assembly has been made and you've just added a new skill to your tool belt! As we all know, geometry is all stored in individual ipt files and it is where the mass is computed based on the geometry. Furthermore since you have highlighted it: For (at least a Vault Environment) some application options should have been fixed and only to be changeable by an administrator. I need to search again for it but I am sure the mass is first written internally to the assembly and the part before it is written to the Physical Property, and there it goes wrong. You can also use it as a way to link parameters, sketches, or scale geometry from part or assembly files. Right-click the Substitute you want to edit and click, In the browser, right-click the substitute model and click, In the browser, right-click the and select. If the base part is a multi-body part with more than one body visible, no bodies are displayed in the graphics screen. .Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor iLogic, API & VBA topics related to programming, creating add-ins, macros, working with the API or creating iLogic tools. Go to the assembly and save it. Go to Solution. Works also with just update() command. Hey, yes and no. If the subtracted component intersects with the part, the result is a cavity. Create the new empty assembly and save it. The new part can change size when constrained to fixed geometry in the assembly. I need to dig deep again to find the reason again since it was already addressed in 2011 with the release of Inventor 2012. Create a Simplified Part from an Assembly The Simplify command creates either a derived solid or a derived surface composite part from an assembly. Changes in design views do not affect envelope size. The iProperties command is available for in-place editing of an assembly as well as in-place editing of a part. Try it and see if you get the same results. When I've had a need to do something like this, I simply create a new subassembly_C in the top level assembly, and then save the top level assembly. Go to Solution. From the Assembly tab. For more information see To Work with Presets. save the assembly as SAT file using Save Copy As. Save assembly (and all parts involved) to specific location using API I'm possibly having a basic misunderstanding of how to correctly save an Inventor file with the API. Hi All,i have the same issue,but i don't understand way it need to be so complicated,is solidworks you do it in one "click"this is so useful when you need to convert assembly to simple part. What You Will Do: Prepare production drawing documents based on sales or production requests Produce drawings of Plan Views, exploded Assemblies, Assemblies, and Components. One idea I had was to save copies of subassembly A and subassembly B. Granted, the OP was, > It would be a lot more useful (for me, at least). By doing this we have reduced a lot of our Vault/Inventor related issues. To edit the simplified substitute: To translate this article, select a language. If the Y-axis is perpendicular to the Top plane, the model is rotated so the Inventor Z-axis is perpendicular to the View Cube Top plane. The Simplify command is used to both create and edit simplified parts. Disabled components remain included, however. Then place them in a new assembly (just a temporary one). It might help to set the subassembly_A and subassembly_B files to read-only before starting this process, just to be safe. Select the Hole patching options if required. You now have a part file that is a dependent copy of an assembly file. If you just Save As to STL format, what do you get? Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, Factory Design Suite 2018, Inventor 2018, & Product Design Suite 2018. It does not update the mass of the top assembly in case there is a save dialog for multiple documents. I'm not just dealing with two subassemblies.